The Ratings are in

lol my mistake, TB drafted him at 8, but TB got great value at that pk.

footballnerd85 wrote:

i say just we all create a big board, or we use one that someone else has made, and determine that way, instead of using the nfl draft, becuz in the nfl, there are different scenarios and situations for the teams choosing those types of players. my way may not be perfect, but it is a little more accurate than using the real draft.

i have a question about this theory though. either one.

Lets say JaMarcus Russell fell to #31 and he was picked. thats +30 for the team that got him.

Then, some player taken #150 in real life falls to #181. Thats +31.

In both of these theories, the 2nd team got better value than the first.

but i think that CJ at one is great value as well, just becuz he will be much better than J-roc in the game.

SoxNats07 wrote:

footballnerd85 wrote:

i say just we all create a big board, or we use one that someone else has made, and determine that way, instead of using the nfl draft, becuz in the nfl, there are different scenarios and situations for the teams choosing those types of players. my way may not be perfect, but it is a little more accurate than using the real draft.

i have a question about this theory though. either one.

Lets say JaMarcus Russell fell to #31 and he was picked. thats +30 for the team that got him.

Then, some player taken #150 in real life falls to #181. Thats +31.

In both of these theories, the 2nd team got better value than the first.

That is true. In theory yes, but you want ever see a pk#1 fall to pk #30.

Most of the value gained for teams are in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th rds. These picks get harder and harder as the rounds go on, but if you can get value for the selections, then you've done your homework.

For every reach pk opens the door for some other team to get good value at their next pk.

~Myyst~ wrote:

lebronzoom wrote:

not necessarilly, Williams went first overall last season and he was like 85, but Bush had a better rating. Im pretty sure they base it off of what should happen if positions werent an issue

Thats because Bush was the best player in the draft as well as CJ in this years draft will have a better rating then JR.

and you make my point for me, since they're going to be better you should be using a mock draft without positions taken into account

~Myyst~ wrote:

SoxNats07 wrote:

footballnerd85 wrote:

i say just we all create a big board, or we use one that someone else has made, and determine that way, instead of using the nfl draft, becuz in the nfl, there are different scenarios and situations for the teams choosing those types of players. my way may not be perfect, but it is a little more accurate than using the real draft.

i have a question about this theory though. either one.

Lets say JaMarcus Russell fell to #31 and he was picked. thats +30 for the team that got him.

Then, some player taken #150 in real life falls to #181. Thats +31.

In both of these theories, the 2nd team got better value than the first.

That is true. In theory yes, but you want ever see a pk#1 fall to pk #30.

Most of the value gained for teams are in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th rds. These picks get harder and harder as the rounds go on, but if you can get value for the selections, then you've done your homework.

For every reach pk opens the door for some other team to get good value at their next pk.

but how do u determine a reach pick? u could say i reached with picking Reggie Nelson at 10, but i desperately needed a saftey, and he was the second highest rated player (and saftey) on my board. it may have been a reach in terms of talent, but i needed him and i think i made the correct decision by drafting him. it is categorized as a reach, but in reality it was who i expected to draft there.

Ok, let me break it down this way and I'll use Denver as an example.

Here is how Devner ranked with their pks based on value of which players are still on the board when Denver made a selection.

Pk 1: +12
Pk 2: +53
Pk 3: +60
Pk 4: +44
Pk 5: +88 selected 198-John Bowie draft in RL @ pk 110
Pk 6: +69
Pk 7: +14

Total +340 Thats how value is put into the equation by pk 5 example.

i get it, but it didnt answer my question.

I think also, that first rounders picked early should have been worth more than late rounders picked early. Its easy to get a 5th round player in the 7th round, but your never going to find a first round player in the 3rd round

footballnerd85 stop thinking First rd, the draft has 7 rds to it. I'll tell you what a reach is, selecting a WR in the 3rd rd when in RL was selected in the 5th rd, when their are tons of better WR still on the board.

Thats what I meant by teams doing their homework! Players selected in the 4/5th rds that were not even drafted! Those are reaches, and other teams benefited from those selections.

ya. its like what sox said before, with his example.

~Myyst~ wrote:

footballnerd85 stop thinking First rd, the draft has 7 rds to it. I'll tell you what a reach is, selecting a WR in the 3rd rd when in RL was selected in the 5th rd, when their are tons of better WR still on the board.

Thats what I meant by teams doing their homework! Players selected in the 4/5th rds that were not even drafted! Those are reaches, and other teams benefited from those selections.

so essentially u r saying that a reach is in the later rounds, when someone takes a player way before they shoulda been taken. but that automatically gives many people a disadvantage, for they traded all of their picks past the second round (like me). many people had no chance to get a high rating, according to what u define a reach.

these ratings suck ballsss

i told u ratings was a bad idea in the league discussion thread, lol, this was stupid

cool sig catspajamas.

footballnerd85 wrote:

~Myyst~ wrote:

footballnerd85 stop thinking First rd, the draft has 7 rds to it. I'll tell you what a reach is, selecting a WR in the 3rd rd when in RL was selected in the 5th rd, when their are tons of better WR still on the board.

Thats what I meant by teams doing their homework! Players selected in the 4/5th rds that were not even drafted! Those are reaches, and other teams benefited from those selections.

so essentially u r saying that a reach is in the later rounds, when someone takes a player way before they shoulda been taken. but that automatically gives many people a disadvantage, for they traded all of their picks past the second round (like me). many people had no chance to get a high rating, according to what u define a reach.

No thats not how it works, it's a domino effect that started in the first rd.

how did i get 12

explaiin the "domino effect". look at ur example. how did that start in the first round?

footballnerd85 wrote:

explaiin the "domino effect". look at ur example. how did that start in the first round?

Easy take a look and answer this question? Where all the players selected in BLM first round selected in RL first rd? Thats how the domino effect starts.

Here's an example I selected Kevin Kolb at pk 112 when in RL he was selected at 36

thanks soxs, titans made it for me, nasty rite?? wtf are we even continuing thsi thread, its so gay, it doesnt matter what their grades are, even if panthers had the worst grade(which they dont) it wont mater because u have them on ur team anyways, so i dont see y some ppl are being pussies about some draft grades, however stupid they are

catspajamas wrote:

thanks soxs, titans made it for me, nasty rite?? wtf are we even continuing thsi thread, its so gay, it doesnt matter what their grades are, even if panthers had the worst grade(which they dont) it wont mater because u have them on ur team anyways, so i dont see y some ppl are being pussies about some draft grades, however stupid they are

it is nasty. who is the back on the left? the one on right is ronnie brown, but whos the other one?

brandon jacob

i thought so, but i wasnt sure. pretty cool. cheezhead is making me a sig, and he said it'll be done today.

use ur example of a fifth round WR taken in the third round. how is that started in the first round?

SoxNats07 wrote:

i thought so, but i wasnt sure. pretty cool. cheezhead is making me a sig, and he said it'll be done today.

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